that government can't count the amount of workers in government is a little bit beyond the pale and maybe -- >> revised it down? >> from minus 13 to minus 51. i don't know what you call it, 38,000 downward revision. and they revised up the private sector in the month of october, so that was good. the other thing it's very hard for me to believe here that there is not a sandy effect in that i see a minus 22 and a minus 20 on construction. mark, would you just chime in on that? i mean, i guess what -- even if hampton is still there, i don't know, they said no sandy effect, but i'm seeing a minus 42,000 on construction and goods producing. how can that not be? >> no. i think that's some of the sandy effect coming through. with katrina what the bls did is they made some adjustments for the fact that they got a lot fewer respondents from the people who were affected by the storm and my guess is this go-around they decided no to the do that for whatever reason, wait for other data to come in. once we get that data coming in, they will revise down. what you're seeing in the construction jo